(Solved!) Suggestions for TF2 "wait" Command

[Renegade]

As mentioned in TF2 Issues, Valve in its usual bout of ignorance has decided to break yet another useful command, this time the "wait" command. So now I am on the hunt for any similar commands to use in place of it in TF2. Unfortunately however, I do not actually own TF2 as of yet and need the help of the community in finding a suitable alternative.

If you own TF2 you can help by:
• testing the "wait" command: use it once, multiple times (i.e. try 2000 waits at once) and post the duration of its effects (if any) on the game.
• enter "help wait" in console to see if any useful help text on using the "wait" command has been provided by Valve devs.
• enter "find wait" to see if you can find any commands related to "wait" (i.e. find any possible substitutions).
• explore/experiment with related commands found.

Even if you don't own TF2, you can help just by keeping your eyes open and/or spreading the word on any gaming forums you frequent to see if any others are experiencing similar problems and have any solutions for them.

Thanks

[killer3345345]

Valve has changed the way 'wait' commands are used in the new source engine. Simply by typing 'wait' followed by a number, the game will wait that many frames.
Example, if you want the game to wait 3 frames between two commands:

command; wait 3; command

Simply entering 'wait' without any numbers will be ignored by the game.

Hope this helped you.

[Renegade]

Very much so, thanks! Someone mentioned it earlier, though I've tried it with no avail in CSS; howevewr now that you mention it again, I believe it may be TF2-specific. Either way, this is very helpful, I should be able to come up with a solution soon. Thanks!

[ShaRose]

Actually, I've figured out a hack around this.

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alias hldj_select_dir "hldj_select_file; exec hldj_unquickselect.cfg; wait 60; exec hldj_quickselect.cfg; hldj_custom_selectdir"
alias listaudio "wait 60;hldj_curdir; hldj_curaudio;exec hldj_listaudio.cfg; hldj_custom_listaudio"

I stuck that in my custom file. The reason is that the OB engine's commands seem to be 'threaded' now, which is to say that something like:

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alias test1 "echo one!;wait 10;echo two!"
alias test2 "echo one!;tenwaitthing;echo two!"
alias tenwaitthing "wait 10"

would output one! and two! 10 ticks apart for test1, while test2 will output one! and two! instantly.

[Renegade]

I've implemented a solution with a result similar to what you've got there (good eye, by the way); except that most instances of hldj_wait have become "hldj_wait; wait 80" (for Source games only). This is because hldj_wait still needs to be present for pre SDK2007 games.

I'm holding off on the next release because I still have some other fixes I'd like to get in; however, since you seem to be keen on the issue, here's a binary you can use to test the fix (along with http://www.hldj.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=287 and some others):
http://hldj.org/hldj_1.4.11.exe

[SpongeCraft1212]

Well, Garry's Mod 13 has this issue. Maybe you can fix that so you can micspam on the beta on Garry's Mod.

[Bittersweet]

Very much so, thanks! Someone mentioned it earlier, though I've tried it with no avail in CSS; howevewr now that you mention it again, I believe it may be TF2-specific. Either way, this is very helpful, I should be able to come up with a solution soon. Thanks!

I was interested in trying to implement a delay in a .cfg file for CS:S. My understanding is that the "wait" command is completely gone. Is hldj_wait simply an alias for a series of wait commands?

Thank you in advance for your help.

[Renegade]

the wait command has changed syntax for OrangeBox becoming wait X where X is number of frames. HLDJ uses both syntaxes, but yes, hldj_wait is an alias for the original wait syntax (using multiple waits). Note that as in topic, the new syntax will not introduce any delay if called from another alias. I don't recall off-hand which syntax CS:S uses, you can check the generated hldj_init.cfg for ideas.